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Not enough space on Blu-ray for MGS4

Posted on March 3rd, 2008 at 13:28 EDT

Most people assumed that Sony's decision to use Blu-ray as its format on the PlayStation 3 was unnecessary figuring that few, if any, games would take advantage of the 25-50GB a disc could offer. Less than 3 months from its release, Hideo Kojima has now revealed that Blu-ray's capacity has limited what Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots could have been.

In an interview with Famitsu, Kojima revealed that Guns of the Patriots did indeed suffer cuts in order to fit the game onto a Blu-ray disc. The disc used for MGS4 is of the 50GB kind, which is roughly six times the capacity of a regular DVD, and the game has been skimped down as to only include local audio tracks and forced Metal Gear Online to be shipped on a seperate disc because of the lack of space. Kojima's actual quote (translated from Famitsu) was: "There's not enough space. We always talked about where to cut and what to compress."

The Metal Gear franchise has always been known for being dialogue-heavy, but MGS4 is set to outdo its predecessors. With the stunning visuals and the possibility of an extensive amount of dialogue outstripping even a Blu-ray disc, this should leave fans excited for the final product. This bit of news should also be enough of a deterrent for Xbox 360 hopefuls that keep hoping that Metal Gear Solid 4 will be defecting to the Xbox 360 because it would be hard to imagine the game being 6 discs long.

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What are your thoughts?
posted 1:37pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
1
good that it would be hard to port it to the xbox 360. i hope the game is god
posted 1:39pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
2
Konami! Do something!
posted 1:49pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
3

wow that's dedication, i mean if they're strugleling to keep it below 50GB they must be making a good game. all the more reason to buy it :-D

posted 1:52pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
4

ha ha 2 xbox

posted 1:59pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
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They just want to sell MGS Online separately. I cannot see any reasons. There were rumours about MGS Online can head to 360 as well. I think that all that data is non compulsary, I mean non engine related stuff. Just look at Assassin's Creed huge open world. The art style of buildings is similar. Lots of codec talks can be compared to Mass Effeect, or even previous MGS. They want to get more money and Konami knows that even single player game will be sold.
posted 2:08pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
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psu, you already said this. We get it. All languages can't be fit on one disc. Big whoop.

posted 2:09pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
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There putting there heart and soul in to this game, we all know it, they wont leave anything out that would hurt the core game. The worst that can happen is maybe another large install like DMC4 and we might miss out on the next gen Snake Vs. Monkey :P
posted 2:12pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
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there's no reason why to get mgs online for crashbox 3fixme for 5$ a week while most xbots can't slteath kill since they too much halo MGS Online will be packaged with MGS4 its bound to happen
posted 2:13pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
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D@mn, now I want to know what they cut from MGS4. I really want to know what this game could have been like if they had 100GB to work with. *drools*

posted 2:25pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
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OMG a game with 50gb!!!!!!?!?!?!?!?! this gone be 1 of a kind!!!!!
posted 2:31pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
11

Niiicee... I smell 100 GB disc soon enough! :D

 

@ Alti

 

Yeah, bring us some real articles. Or just new ones.

posted 2:35pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
12

Damn I wonder how Killzone2 will fit on the disc then =

posted 2:51pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
13
my god... more than 50 GB?? and they said no game would ever fill that space for a few years yet... yea, good luck gettin that on the crapbox with 6 discs LAWL =D
posted 3:02pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
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Then just make it  two disks and thats all.

posted 3:18pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
15

6 disc's long wow ... kojima your a freak... i never thought any dev could fill out a 50gig blu-ray disc!!!!!

posted 3:28pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
16

Can a mod ban this guy please ^^^^^^^^^

posted 3:30pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
17

PSU... do something about PKlove ^^^^

posted 3:40pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
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That is going to be so cool.  Maybe they will break out the disks with more layers in a year or so.  They can already make a 200gb blu-ray disk, we would just need a firmware update.  Doesnt sound like we will be getting those superdisks before mgs4.

posted 3:40pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
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Thanks for removing the spammers post PSU. :)

posted 3:44pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
20

proves that 360 COULD never get this game

posted 3:52pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
21

if its not enough just make 2 blu ray disks then lol DUH i should work for konami i would be rich.

posted 3:55pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
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"but the space is bad!" - xbot

if xbots think 25 gb's is to much... they just got owned soooo far up the a-ss cuz if sony wanted to/ needed to they could release a 200gb blu ray disc 8 layers.

haha soooooo owned sooooo owned

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OWNED its not even funny. Imagine a 200gb game.... you could have an entire interactive country on there!!!!

( but im kinda p.oed i wanted mgs4 online on the disk... now we have to pay for a whole new game? gahhh )

posted 4:03pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
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I would have to ask Konami one question after reading this. Why not put the game on 2 discs? This way you would not have to cut anything out, because I would hate to know that they had to cut out environments or other key things just to get the game to fit on one disc. This game will still be awesome either way and is a must buy for PS3 fans.

PSN ID: XtremeCoaster

posted 4:04pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
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unlucky microsoft  lol

posted 4:08pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
25

::sighs in relief:::  now the box fans have to buy a ps3 if they really want it.  this game will be huge!!!!!!

posted 4:09pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
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Holy c**p is it a 50GB disc! Im impressed! :)

posted 4:16pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
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psn id: gingo... they really need to get that 100 and 200 gig disk perfected and get it out if developers are already filling up the whole disk in such an early stage in the ps3s life

posted 4:19pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
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you need more then firmware to read the disc that is gonna be 200 GB, 2 discs kinda destroys the "future" part even tho people wouldnt mind if the game was great, making it in one disc seems better feat. Btw having complete next gen offer even tho not more then 5% have high-end setup is good. Having sound is today as important as visuals so this game should be more then enough to amaze gamers genral. Im still dissapoint halo got 10 i wonder what great games that are atleast 2 times better then halo 3 will get. They had to destroy their ratings because of fanboys.

posted 4:21pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
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Omg 50GB not eunough wtf?? this game gonna rock so hard!!!

posted 5:08pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
30

if this game evers goes to the 360 it going to be on 8 disc look at lost odyssey

posted 5:09pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
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impressive, speaks volumes to the game. The wording is tricky though, it has been translated that MGS online is packaged seperately, not necessarily sld seperately. Interested to see how that will pan ot, regardless I'll get both. You can't complain about a game famine and then not par take in the grand feast.
posted 5:25pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
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Killzone2 will use the 100gb blu ray disk & future games will follows shorty after.
posted 5:59pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
33

6 discs!?! thats worse than FFVII

 

posted 6:18pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
34

They really couldn't have it any other way, just imagine if MMO's start doing this for the PS3. Now that would be hysterical. XD

posted 6:21pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
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omg i was watching g4 like 2 days ago and i was watching the loop on  attack of the show and they were talking about since sony won the format war if people should try ps3 especially with lineup in 08 and one of the idiots was like im just gonna wait for the 360 version of mgs4 because theres no way its gonna stay eclusive HAHAHAHAHAHA you r gonna being waitng a long time id1ot lol

posted 6:39pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
36

conclusive proof mgs4 is never going to the 360

posted 6:50pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
37

I think mgs4 will satisfy most of us even if there wasnt enough space plus its an "Exclusive".

 

On g4 last week last of february there was this journalist from iam8bit.com in the loop segment the host kev. p. mentioned to the guy yeah metal gear 4 is coming out in june it haves a release date is it anything your expecting.

 

And then the journalist went on to say ill wait for a 360 version of the game to release and he was teary eyed lol and blushin since how it just came off way too fanboyish , and i was thinking um.. ok and how since hes that confident its going to be made then no problem with 6 to 8 discs and how he would think it was worth it because how they could fit everything onto every disc.

posted 6:52pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
38
Well why doesn't Kojima just put the MGO disc in the MGS4 box. Does this mean we are going to need to buy MGO separately?
posted 7:23pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
39

damn it two blurays! NEW RECORD!!! hahaha i wonder how many dics will final xiii will have......3 hahaha

posted 7:36pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
40

Oh my God, I had no idea that MGS4 would use a 50GB Blu-Ray disc, I was thinking that it would only be a 25GB disc. Man, I can't wait for this. Plus, Hideo Kojima said that it would be a PS3 exclusive, and Konami confirmed that it would be a PS3 exclusive, yet Xbox fans still think it's coming to the 360... Ha ha ha!! If they want to get this game, they will have to get a PS3. I've always said that Metal Gear Solid 4 will be the game that will convert Xbox fanboys to PS3 owners.

posted 9:47pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
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This will be the best game of 2008, Kojima really knows how to use the power of the PS3.

posted 10:13pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
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When I pre-ordered my copy of MGS 4, the employee at Game Stop actually had the balls to ask me for what system. I laughed and said, "The only system its coming out for, PS3". To which he replied, "Well they'll eventually port it to 360". I then reminded him of Hido's numerous anouncments of it being exclusive. To which he replied ," I don't even care, I dont even like the Metal Gear series". LOL you Xbots crack me up.

posted 10:38pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
43
hot dog 50gbs. I love fanboys they crack me ^
posted 11:45pm EST - March 3rd, 2008
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an thats y the xbox 360 is crap!! it would need 6 or more discs n plus they would hav to tone down the graphics too. so ppl who keep sayin mgs4 is coming to the 360 stop making stuff up and face the facts ps3 is better!

posted 12:28am EST - March 4th, 2008
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I wonder what size Blu-ray Killzone 2 will use...

posted 12:57am EST - March 4th, 2008
46

What kind of game they making that woudlnt fit a 50GB BR disk? Thats real sick. Maybe a 2nd disk and split the game up or just reale the game on a 80 gb hard drive.

Still, its kind of crazy to think theres already a game that doesnt fit a 50GB disk. They are starting to unlease sick power in the PS3 to the point where they will have to hold back a bit. Crazy.

posted 2:04am EST - March 4th, 2008
47
wow, and HA take that xbots!
posted 3:56am EST - March 4th, 2008
48

Why are people saying that Metal Gear Online is sold separately.  The starter pack is included with MGS4 and the DLC will be released later.  It says so right here:   http://www.psu.com/MGS-Online-starter-pack-included-in-MGS4,-DLC-will-follow-News--a2379-p0.php

Just how Halo 3 technically comes with the matchmaking starer pack and the DLC maps were released later.  It's the same thing.  I don't understand how anyone who visits this site is complaining about buying metal gear online separately. 

posted 4:23am EST - March 4th, 2008
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Well then, I guess I'll be expecting an UNCUT version of this game in the future...and call it SUB???? (something?!?).  Also, why couldn't they just release a two disc version, like the first MGS game on PSOne! (it may cost more, but profitably worth it!).

 

Too bad we don't have Lost Oddysey on PS3, that could have fit on just one BD instead of four dvd's for X360!

 

PS. How's about releasing the whole MGS saga on 3 to 4 BD's (including MGO) and giving us a HD version of the previous games plus the VR missions!?!  Maybe somewhere down the track to commemorate the end of the series?? Huh Kojima, waddaya say???  ;)

posted 5:16am EST - March 4th, 2008
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reading through all posts there's no point repeating what eeryone is saying.........apart from storage! will sony be looking at holographic storage capacity?

im just thinking of future games.

posted 5:19am EST - March 4th, 2008
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@smallvillefreak The problem is thats an older article, when no one knew about the limitations Kojima has just spoken about. I just hope MGO is with the game but on a seperate disc so we don't have to spend more money. I'm gunna struggle enough as it is to get GTA4 and MGS4, but if it comes down to choice it would be MGS4 by a long shot.
posted 11:59am EST - March 4th, 2008
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Surely they could make MGS on two disks...?

posted 12:56pm EST - March 4th, 2008
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Compressing to fit on a 50gig?Impressive to say the least,the beginning of the end for the 360 is very near for the 360 now.

posted 2:57pm EST - March 4th, 2008
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sorry xbots you still suck..but you still have halo right *what's that..halo isn't as good as they said it would b...oops*..guess now you're gonna have to get a ps3 n stare @ your dumb refection in all it's black sexiness

posted 3:33pm EST - March 4th, 2008
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y not downloads via psn
posted 6:12pm EST - March 4th, 2008
56

Damn.........sorry but that's all I can say

posted 11:43pm EST - March 4th, 2008
57

Make 2 then Ill buy it

posted 4:02am EST - March 5th, 2008
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OMG, just use compressed audio then!

posted 12:28pm EST - March 8th, 2008
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or you know, they could do what microsoft did with lost offyssey and put it on 6 disks......(lost oddyssey is on 4 disks, noone complained, and blue dragon was on 2)

soo i cant wait until this is released, hopefully on the 360 too. hmm, wonder if they could release 50 gig on a blu-ray disk then add in the last bits as a download off of psn...

posted 7:38pm EST - March 8th, 2008
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msg4=ps3's biggest!

posted 2:03am EDT - March 15th, 2008
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Damn, 50?! This game is...I don't even know what to say. My excitement has increased tenfold. xD

posted 8:59pm EDT - March 23rd, 2008
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Hahahaha 360 forget it .not in this life time

posted 1:23am EDT - March 24th, 2008
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Dought it reached 50 gigs to the point where they can't take out extras that they probably added for bonus material, it's probably a stubbornly on purpose press release act to get everybodies attention. That's why I'm getting it now,,, JK it was always a must have!
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